Made In is one of the newest cookware brands on the market, launching in 2016, but it’s already receiving praise from prominent media outlets, Michelin-star chefs, and thousands of customers.
But are all the 5-star reviews legitimate? Is Made In cookware really that good?
In this in-depth review of Made In cookware, I’m going to tell you the good, bad, and everything in between. You’ll learn:
- What it’s made of and how it’s made
- How it looks and feels (with lots of pictures)
- How it performs compared to the competition
- Its shortcomings
- What others are saying about it
- And much more
By the end, you’ll have all the important facts to decide if Made In is the right cookware for you.
Let’s get started.
Use these links to navigate the review:
- Made In Cookware Review: One-Minute Summary
- Construction and Materials
- Made In vs. the Competition: Heat Conduction and Retention
- Cooking Performance
- What Others Are Saying
- Made In’s Story
- Other Made In Cookware Products
- FAQs About Made In Cookware
- Bottom Line: Should You Buy Made In Cookware?
Made In Cookware Review: One-Minute Summary
If you only have a minute, here’s a summary of the facts about Made In cookware.
I cover each of these topics in detail (with lots of pictures) throughout the review.
Made In’s Story: Made In launched in 2016 with the mission of making high-quality cookware more accessible (i.e., affordable). Made In avoids retail markups by selling exclusively on MadeInCookware.com, which allows them to offer premium-quality products at affordable prices.
Product Offerings: Made In’s primary product line is its 5-ply stainless steel cookware (the focus of this review), but they also offer carbon steel and copper cookware, kitchen knives, and kitchen accessories. Check out my in-depth reviews of Made In’s carbon steel cookware and kitchen knives.
Design: The stainless steel interior is ultra-smooth with flared rims and sloped low-profile walls. The stainless steel exterior has a brushed finish, offering a modern look. The steel handle curves upward at the base of the pan then straightens out and features a small bump on the bottom side to prevent your hand from sliding. The handle is double-bolted to the pan with the Made In logo centered.
Construction and Materials: Made In stainless steel cookware boasts 5-ply, fully-clad construction. The cooking surface is made with 18/10 stainless steel, the exterior is magnetic 403 stainless steel, and the core consists of three layers of heavy-gauge aluminum. This 5-ply construction results in exceptionally durable cookware that heats up fast and evenly.
Heating Test Results: I tested the Made In 12-inch frying pan to see how it would perform against All-Clad, Calphalon, and Misen. The Made In pan boiled water faster and retained its heat for longer than all three competitors.
Cooking Performance: Made In cookware sits flat on the stove, heats evenly, and the handle stays nice and cool. One watch-out—it transfers heat so efficiently that if you set the temperature above medium, you risk burning your food and scorching the pan.
Complaints: There’s a lot to love about Made In cookware, but it comes with some downsides, including:
- With only one stainless steel collection, Made In doesn’t provide much variety in terms of design.
- It heats up quickly, but it’s not forgiving.
- The frying pan walls are somewhat shallow, which makes it easy to spill over the sides.
- As a start-up, Made In doesn’t have the track record of competitors that have been in the cookware business for decades.
What Others Are Saying: Despite being a new brand, Made In has received praise and awards from Consumer Reports, Good Housekeeping, CNET, Time Magazine, and CNBC. Also, it’s used at Michelin star restaurants, including Alinea and Le Bernardin.
FAQs: Made In stainless steel cookware is oven-safe up to 800 degrees Fahrenheit and is compatible with all cooktops, including induction. It’s dishwasher-safe. The cookware is made in the United States and Italy (the carbon steel cookware and kitchen knives are made in France). The lifetime warranty covers defects in materials and craftsmanship.
Should You Buy It? Yes. Its quality, performance, and design are comparable to premium brands, but its price is similar to that of a mid-tier one. However, if you’re more comfortable with a proven brand or like to get your hands on the cookware in-store before you buy it, you might want to consider other options. You can read other reviews, see more pictures, and check the current prices on MadeInCookware.com.
Let’s kick off this Made In cookware review by taking an up-close look at its design.
And there’s no better way to explain the design of Made In stainless clad cookware than to show you.
I’ll use the 12-inch Stainless Steel Frying Pan to tell the story. Let’s start with the packaging.
I use and test a lot of cookware products, and I have to say that I am impressed with how the Made In cookware is packaged. It’s not bland like most brands; it’s fun. The 12-inch frying pan comes in a bright red box, a color often related to passion, food, appetite, and excitement.
If Made In seeks to wake up a new generation to the fun of cooking, I think this packaging is an excellent introduction to the friendly tone of the brand.
The packaging includes a personal note presenting the cookware to the new owner and adds statements like “Say hi to your fry,” and calling the cookware “Blameless Stainless.” It’s truly fun and whimsical marketing.
Here’s a closer look at the message Made In writes inside the box.
The 18/10 stainless steel, non-reactive interior has an ultra-smooth starburst pattern, designed for optimal searing and sautéing. The pattern also reduces sticking.
The non-stick version of this pan has the same design, except the interior is coated in three layers of PFOA-free non-stick coating.
The pan features flared rims that are ideal for drip-free pouring. The sloped sides are designed for better evaporation when reducing pan sauces, while the curved walls make it easy to flip, rotate, or agitate food in the skillet during cooking.
The brushed stainless steel exterior is induction-compatible and features a circular pattern that emanates from the center of the pan.
If you flip the pan over, you’ll find an etching of the pan type, pan size, brand name, and a Made In the USA tag.
How many high-quality cookware brands have artist-inspired etchings on the bottoms of its pans? For a limited time, the art of Will Bryant graces the pans, which furth recognizes Made In as a hip, new-age brand with a down-to-earth tone, made for the people.
The ergonomic, stainless steel handle is curved upward from the pan and includes a small bump on the bottom side to prevent your hand from sliding too close to the heat.
Although you can’t tell by holding it, the handle is hollow. They designed it this way to more effectively disperse heat so that the handles stay cool while also providing stability on all types of cooktops.
The long handle is double bolted to the pan with the Made In logo centered.
The Frying Pan Silicone Universal Lid will fit all Made In frying pans and the Blue Carbon Steel Wok.
This electric blue colored accessory also doubles as a trivet. Its stainless steel core is encased in heat resistant silicone.
The universal lid can withstand up to 400 degrees Fahrenheit and is suitable for use on cooktops and in ovens. It has a hanging loop on one end perfect for pot rack storage.
Their stockpots, saucepans, and saute pans also come with standard stainless steel lids, which are sleek, attractive, and lock in moisture.
Construction and Materials
Made In negotiates directly with manufacturers to source and secure all raw materials. They control the quality standards at every turn and work with family-owned companies to manufacture the cookware in the United States, France, and Italy.
Made In’s Stainless Clad cookware has 5-ply bonded construction. This type of construction is also referred to as cladding.
Cladded cookware is the result of layering and bonding metals to maximize durability, heat control and retention, and corrosion resistance.
Multi-clad cookware is praised for its even heating not just from the bottom up, but at every point in the pan, simultaneously. Cladding delivers a “surround-sound” of heat.
Made In has five layers of thick metal, including its interior layer (cooking surface) made of American-made 18/10 stainless steel, which is exceptionally durable and highly resistant to oxidation, an exterior made of magnetic 403 stainless steel with makes it compatible with induction cooktops, and three core layers of heavy gauge aluminum, which provides optimal heat conduction.
Here’s an illustration from Made In’s website that depicts the layering and construction of their cookware.
In general, the thicker cookware distributes heat more evenly and retains it longer than thinner cookware. The walls of most premium cookware are 2.3mm, but Made In takes it a step further, with walls 2.7mm thick.
Made In frying pans have some weight to them, so when food is added, you may find that they require two hands for transport or manipulation. The best-selling 12-inch Stainless Clad frying pan weighs 3.2 pounds.
Made In vs. the Competition: Heat Conduction and Retention
Made In claims that its cookware has superior heat conduction and retention than the competition.
To test these claims, I put the Made In 12-inch, 5-ply stainless steel frying pan to the test against some of the most established brands in the cookware industry.
In this section, I share with you the results of my test.
Quick, Even Heating
I poured two cups of water into a room temperature pan to see how fast Made In would bring the water to a boil. After selecting the highest heat setting on the cooktop, it took 1 minute and 40 seconds to begin boiling, and it hit a roaring boil at 2 minutes and 28 seconds.
|Pan||Time to First Bubbles||Time to Boil|
|Made In 12-inch fry pan||1 minute and 40 seconds||2 minutes and 21 seconds|
|All-Clad 10-inch fry pan||1 minute and 55 seconds||2 minutes and 55 seconds|
|Calphalon 12-inch fry pan||1 minute and 45 seconds||2 minutes and 40 seconds|
|Misen 10-inch fry pan||1 minute and 50 seconds||2 minutes and 25 seconds|
Of the four pans I tested, the Made In pan boiled water the fastest, with Misen coming in second place; All-Clad and Calphalon took the longest to boil water.
These results are not surprising because Made In has thick 5-ply construction, with a triple-layer aluminum core (aluminum has high thermal conductivity). Also, the Made In pan sits completely flat on the cooktop, maximize contact with the heat.
As I watched the water prepare to boil, I noticed that the bubbles in the Made In pan were even across the entire pan.
Evenly distributed bubbles indicate even heat distribution. If the distribution of heat wasn’t uniform, the formation of bubbles would have been haphazard or concentrated in certain spots.
When a pan has excellent heat retention, you can turn off the cooktop and still get residual cooking as you finish a meal. It also helps keep food warm as you prepare to plate and serve.
Most importantly, a pan with excellent heat retention won’t cool down when you slap a cold piece of meat on the cooking surface.
I tested Made In’s heat retention by setting the four pans on the counter and measuring the water temperature after five and ten minutes.
Below are the results:
|Pan||Water Temperature After Five Minutes||Water Temperature After Ten Minutes|
|Made In 12-inch fry pan||121.1°F||106.6°F|
|All-Clad 10-inch fry pan||111.6°F||100.9°F|
|Calphalon 12-inch fry pan||112.8°F||101.1°F|
|Misen 10-inch fry pan||118.6°F||103.4°F|
Although all four pans showed excellent heat retention, Made In was the clear winner. After five minutes, the water in the Made In pan measured 121.1°F. After ten minutes, the water temperature was 106.6°F.
Misen came in second while All-Clad and Caphalon were a distant 3rd and 4th.
The bottom line is that Made In shows faster heat conduction and superior heat retention than some of the most established cookware brands on the market.
We know that Made In cookware heats up quickly and evenly, but how well does it cook actual food?
The short answer: Made In cookware performs really well in the kitchen.
I’ve used the Made In 12-inch frying pan to cook chicken, pork, vegetables, sauces; you name it. Every meal has come out as I expected.
Here’s a look at a pork chop I recently seared on the stove and finished in the oven.
And, this is a chicken breast I recently cooked entirely on the stove.
In all honesty, I’m yet to be even slightly disappointed in the cooking performance. The pan sits flat on the stove, heats evenly, and the handle stays cool.
I’ve tested dozens of brands, including high-end names like All-Clad, Calphalon, and Demeyere; Made In can hold its own against any of them.
Stainless steel pans are notorious for staining and being tough to clean, but I am surprised to say; that hasn’t been the case with Made In. For the most part, 30 seconds of rinsing and a firm scrub does the job.
One warning—when you cook with Made In, set the burner no higher than slightly above medium.
Made In transfers heat so efficiently that if the temperature is above medium, you’ll burn your food and scorch the pan.
I learned this lesson the first time I tested the pan. I set the burner to high, let it heat for a minute, and added oil. The oil nearly burned within 15 seconds.
No product is perfect, and Made In cookware is no exception.
Although my opinion on Made In is overwhelmingly positive, here are my few complaints.
Lack of Options: Made In doesn’t provide many options. While more established brands offer several stainless steel collections with different materials, designs, and features, Made In only has one stainless steel collection. If you prefer cookware with a more reactive copper core or a more lightweight tri-ply construction, you’ll have to consider another brand. Made In is still a young company and could be building out new offerings, but, for now, your options are limited.
Unforgiving: Made In cookware is built with a thick triple-layer aluminum core for quick and even heating. The downside of this thick aluminum core is that, sometimes, it heats up and reacts to temperature changes so quickly that you end up burning your food. In other words, it’s less forgiving than the average pan. Once you get the hang of it and learn about cooking with stainless steel, you shouldn’t have any issues.
Shallow Sidewalls: Overall, I love the design of Made In pans. It’s aesthetically pleasing and functional. But I have one minor complaint; the sidewalls of the frying pans have too shallow of a slope. This design, plus the flared rims, makes it easy to slide food onto a plate, but it also makes it easier to spill. Okay, I realize I might be nit-picking here, but it’s worth noting if you’re someone who obsesses over a clean kitchen.
Unproven: By all indications, Made In cookware is exceptionally durable and reliable. It’s made with the highest quality steel, double-riveted steel handles, and can handle much higher temperatures than most brands (800 degrees in the oven!). When you buy a set, you can expect it to last a very long time. However, since they’ve only been in business since 2016, not enough time has gone by to prove it.
What Others Are Saying
In just a few years, Made In has received praise from home chefs, professional chefs, and even top consumer authorities like Consumer Reports and Good Housekeeping.
Here’s a snapshot of how their products are being received.
- Consumer Reports named Made In’s Stainless Clad Starter Kit one of the Best Cookware Sets of 2020.
- Good Housekeeping features Made In’s Starter Kit one of 7 Best Stainless Steel Cookware Sets to Buy in 2020, According to Kitchen Experts. It was named the Best Stainless Steel Cookware for Beginners
- Made In was named the Favorite Overall in the Best Direct-To-Consumer Cookware guide by CNET.
- Made In Universal Lid named one of the 50 Best Inventions of 2018 by Time Magazine.
- Made In made the list of the Top 100 Startups by CNBC.
- Made In Cookware is used in several Michelin-star restaurants, including Alinea and Le Bernardin. It’s also used by Tom Colicchio, the celebrity chef-owner of Crafted Hospitality and Top Chef Judge.
The Made In site has several thousand 5-star reviews for the brand. An astounding 95% of reviewers rated the product as excellent (5 stars).
Made In’s reviews are captured by a third-party (Judge.me) and verified by purchases to ensure data authenticity.
As I read through the reviews, I noticed some common themes.
Satisfied shoppers gave the cookware praise for the look and feel, durability, and cooking performance.
People used descriptions like “sturdy” and “well-made.”
Some of the most reviewed products are the Stainless Clad and Blue Carbon Steel cookware. There are also praises for Made In’s customer service.
Some reviewers complain about the weight of the pans, notably the Blue Carbon Steel.
Reviews of three stars or less also complained about cleaning the pans.
Of the nearly 20,000 reviews on the site, roughly 1% had something negative to say.
Made In’s Story
Before I jump into the details of the cookware, it’s important to understand Made In as a company, and what makes them unique.
Made In debuted its cookware offerings in 2016 and, although a newcomer to the industry, the brand is fast becoming a contender with proven brands like All-Clad (check out my comparison of Made In vs. All-Clad), Calphalon, and Tramontina.
Just a few years after its launch, chefs at Michelin-star restaurants, including Alinea in Chicago and Le Bernardin in New York City, are using Made In cookware. Not too shabby.
At the helm are childhood friends, Chip Malt and Jake Kalick. Kalick brings a 100-year family history in kitchen supplies to the brand.
Malt and Kalick recognized a major problem in the cookware industry; high-quality cookware is too expensive, which makes it inaccessible to most home cooks.
They founded Made In to solve this problem.
Instead of selling through retailers like most cookware brands, Made In sells its products exclusively on their website, which is attractive and easy to navigate.
This direct-to-consumer business model is a growing trend across many industries and for a good reason. By cutting out the middlemen, Made In can offer significantly lower prices for an equally, if not better, product.
To be clear, Made In is less expensive than most premium cookware, but it’s not cheap. Compared to top brands like All-Clad and Calphalon, it’s a less expensive, though formidable alternative.
If you browse Made In’s website, you’ll notice how transparent they are about their products and processes.
You quickly learn that they source their metal from suppliers in Kentucky and Pennsylvania, and their non-stick coating from Illinois.
You’ll also learn that they partner with family-owned manufacturers in the United States, Italy, and France who have been making cookware for decades, and, in some cases, centuries.
They also have an active blog, Beyond the Burner, where you can find helpful tips like How to Clean a Wok, A Guide to Seasoning Carbon Steel Pans, and How to Prevent Damage to Your Stainless Steel Pans.
Made In is a modern cookware company attempting to disrupt this slowly evolving industry by offering excellent quality, affordable prices, and an enjoyable shopping experience.
Other Made In Cookware Products
In this review, I focus primarily on Made In stainless steel, fully-clad cookware since it’s their most popular product line.
However, in this section, I also provide a quick overview of all the products they offer so you get an idea of your options.
Unlike some brands that make everything you could ever need in your kitchen, Made In keeps it simple. They offer four product categories:
- Stainless Clad Cookware
- Kitchen Knives
- Carbon Steel Cookware
- Copper Cookware
- Flatware, Glassware, Plates and Bowls
- Kitchen Accessories
Stainless Clad Cookware
The stainless steel, 5-ply cookware is sold in kits (a.k.a. sets) or as individual pieces.
The kit concept focuses on a person’s needs. From the amateur chef to a seasoned gourmet, there is a suitable kit to match your needs.
Ready for grown-up cookware? Have limited space? Not sure where to begin? Try The Starter Kit. It’s a six-piece set that includes three of Made In’s most popular pots and pans:
- 10-inch Stainless Steel Frying Pan
- 10-inch Carbon Steel Frying Pan
- 2-qt. Stainless Steel Saucepan with Lid
- 8-qt. Stainless Steel Stock Pot with Lid
Ready to elevate your cooking game? Try The Sous Chef Kit, an 11-piece best-selling collection that offers stainless steel and non-stick cookware:
- 10-inch Stainless Steel Frying Pan
- 10-inch Non-Stick Frying Pan
- 10-inch Carbon Steel Frying Pan
- 2-qt. Saucepan with Lid
- 4-qt. Saucepan with Lid
- 3.5-qt. Sauté Pan with Lid
- 8-qt. Stockpot with Lid
And for those who are looking for a kit to replace mismatched cookware pieces or are moving into a new home, consider The Executive Chef Kit. It’s a 14-piece kit that includes stainless steel, non-stick, and the increasingly popular blue carbon steel pan:
- 12-inch Blue Carbon Steel Frying Pan
- 12-inch Non-Stick Frying Pan
- 12-inch Frying Pan
- 10-inch Non-Stick Frying Pan
- 10-inch Frying Pan
- 2-qt. Saucepan with Lid
- 3-qt. Saucier with Lid
- 3.5-qt. Sauté Pan with Lid
- 6-qt. Stock Pot with Lid
- 8-qt. Stock Pot with Lid
Carbon Steel Cookware
Made In also offers a Carbon Steel Kit, which includes a 10-inch frying pan, wok, roasting pan, and a can of seasoning wax.
Carbon steel has the rugged look and non-stick functionality of cast iron with the precise heat control of stainless steel. It’s oven-safe up to 1200 degrees Fahrenheit, perfect for putting a crispy sear on meat.
If you’re interested in Made In carbon steel cookware, I recently published an in-depth review where I break down its design, performance, durability, pros, cons, and much more.
Made In recently expanded into a new and exciting category: copper.
Currently, they offer one product, The Copper Set, which includes a 1.5-qt. saucepan, 4.5-quart rondeau, and 5-quart saucier.
Each piece is composed of 90% copper and 10% stainless steel (cooking surface).
Besides its elegant and classy look, copper heats up fast and responds quickly to changes in temperature, giving you precise control.
If you’re looking for high-performing copper cookware that’s made in France, check out this set. Warning: it’s pricey (like most copper cookware).
In addition to pots and pans, Made In also makes high-quality knives, including chef’s knives, santoku knives, knife sets, paring and utility knives, and butcher blocks.
You can personalize their knives by engraving names or messages on the blade.
These fully-forged knives are made with X50CrMoV15 steel, which is ultra-durable and holds a sharp edge over time. It’s the same material used to make all Wusthof knives (see our review of Wusthof).
Lastly, they’re equipped with a red, black, or white handle, which is comfortable and attractive.
Made In has a few kitchen accessories designed to complement the primary product lines, including wooden spoons, stainless steel cleaner, carbon steel wax, and commercial-grade aluminum sheet pans. Perhaps the most innovative item is the universal lid for frying pans and woks that doubles as a trivet.
FAQs About Made In Cookware
Here are some of the most frequently asked questions about Made In cookware:
Made In works with family-owned cookware manufacturing businesses in the United States, France, and Italy. The stainless steel and non-stick cookware is made in the United States and Italy. The carbon steel and copper cookware and knives are made in France.
The only place you can buy Made In cookware is on MadeInCookware.com. It’s not available in stores or other online retailers.
Yes, Made In stainless clad cookware is oven-safe to 800 degrees Fahrenheit, carbon steel is oven-safe up to 1200, and non-stick is oven-safe up to 500. The universal lid is oven safe up to 400.
Yes, all Made In cookware is induction-compatible (even the non-stick pans) and safe for use on all other cooktops.
Yes, Made In stainless steel and non-stick pans are dishwasher-safe, but I strongly suggest hand washing in warm water with a mild detergent and a long-handled nylon brush with flexible bristles. You need to handwash the carbon steel cookware.
High-grade silicone, plastic, or wooden tools are preferred, but the cookware is designed to stand up to any utensil (including metal).
If you use it as directed, Made In cookware shouldn’t warp. But, just like any other multi-clad stainless steel pan, it can warp if you expose it to extreme temperature changes. Never place a hot pan into a sink filled with cold water or let cold water run over a hot pan.
Yes, Made In offers a limited lifetime warranty that covers defects in materials and craftsmanship under regular use.
Made In keeps their prices low by cutting out the middleman and selling directly to customers on their website. You can view the pricing for all products on MadeInCookware.com.
You can return stainless steel cookware, non-stick cookware, knives, and universal lids within 45 days of the delivery for a full refund.
The same goes for the carbon steel cookware, as long as you haven’t used it yet.
If you’ve already used the carbon steel cookware, you can return it within 45 days of delivery for a full store credit.
You can read the full return policy on MadeInCookware.com.
No! Shipping is 100% free within the continental United States.
Bottom Line: Should You Buy Made In Cookware?
I’ve reviewed dozens of cookware brands over the years, and Made In is undoubtedly one of the most unique.
Its quality, performance, and design is comparable to premium brands like All-Clad, Demeyere, and Calphalon. But, its price is similar to a mid-tier brand you can pick up at any department store.
Their direct-to-consumer business model and modern, helpful, and fun approach to cookware is a refreshing change that the industry needed.
But, despite all that, no brand is right for everyone.
So, the question is: should you buy Made In cookware?
Here’s my recommendation:
You should buy Made In cookware if:
- You want premium, 5-ply stainless clad cookware that is elegantly designed and performs on par with the most established brands in the world.
- You’re willing to invest in high-quality cookware that will last, but you’re not ready to spend thousands on a set.
- You want cookware that heats up quickly and distributes heat evenly.
- You prefer the chic look of a brushed stainless steel exterior over a shiny polished exterior.
- You understand basic cooking techniques and how to approach cooking with 5-ply cookware (don’t turn the stove too far past medium).
- You like to start meals on the stove and finish them in the oven, and you don’t ever want to worry about exceeding the maximum oven-safe temperature (Made In is safe up to 800 degrees).
- You want to use the cookware that Michelin star chefs use.
If this sounds like you, check out Made In’s website where you can read hundreds of other reviews and see the current prices.
You should NOT buy Made In cookware if:
- You prefer a brand with a long, proven track record.
- You’re on a really tight budget (Made In cookware is less expensive than other premium brands, but it’s not cheap).
- You’re the type of shopper that needs to hold a product before you buy it (Made In cookware is only available on their website).
- You easily get distracted while cooking (Made In heats up fast and reacts to changes in temperature quickly).
- You need lots of options (Made In currently only offers one stainless steel collection).
If this sounds more like you, you might want to consider other brands. Although you’ll pay much more, some other great options are All-Clad and Calphalon (see my comparison).
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